that was a nice entry! It makes the blog even more appealin’.
it’s funny how i got distracted by ur voice and missed the whole point of the post. lol…well am gon’ give it another listen. :=)
Good job!
great idea, so will you be the only one using the podcast, and how often do you think you will do it. maybe in the future people with recording software will be able to reply. anyways keep up the good work, and I am patiently awaiting my MILLENIUM SHIRT, is there any way to reserve it, i dont want to miss it again.
Thanks all, funny thing my voice became the topic of discussion as opposed to the topic…
well ya I said unscripted.. and while i was doing it.. i ended up saying uuuhm a lot.. while i was processing my thought you know…
I think I speak a lot lot slower than I think… well i think the same is the case for many….
and so even though i thought it was going to be unscripted I did have to make a bullet point notes… so that my podcast was somewhat organized…
temari you are so right.. i did the amharic part the first day and then I did the english part the second day… and also I thought it was inappropriate to add.. music background to abatachine hoy…
and thus it sounds different…
this was obviously my first shot.. and i think i got better as i went along…
thanks for the support homies… lets talk about the topic!
LOL okay so why did you think it was inappropriate to add music to abatachen HOY? BTW you have a ferengi accent when you speak Amarigna and to get back to the podcast. I think the Ethiopian Culture and the Church have kind of intermingled. This goes to all the Bernos readers do you think that some one our Traditions have been carried into the church creating some false illusions about Chirstianity and what it means to be a Christian?
LOL at reciting ‘Abatachen Hoye’. It reminded me of grade school back home.
Wondering very good question
[quote comment="41199"] This goes to all the Bernos readers do you think that some one our Traditions have been carried into the church creating some false illusions about Chirstianity and what it means to be a Christian?
[/quote]
You could say its a backward philosophy, to have religion be at the forefront of culture. In our current world religious freedom is more of the norm and religion is not synonymous with culture, but in the past religion was the essential part of the culture.
Wondering,
I don’t know if you are abesha, but there are somethings that Ethiopians do and don’t…. one thing to respect the elders.. old people are so respected… …
most ethiopians as far as I know do not mix… food with music… i am sure this things are forgoten nowadays as we are becoming more western but it was a fact in our household… no music while you eat…
another thing is you don’t play your music in church.. so its a blatant disrespect to god if you do this things.. thus no background music while praying…
i think its just common sense
This goes to all the Bernos readers do you think that some one our Traditions have been carried into the church creating some false illusions about Chirstianity and what it means to be a Christian?
I think you are mistaken here too… the question is even a mistake… sorry…
religion played a role in tradition… if we are forced to support a variable in our tradition… then some base it in religion….
the illusion in not on christianity but in the modernization and westernization of Ethiopian culture…
and ofcource its not as simple as that… as there are other variables that affect our culture… like other religions and etc.. which i don’t want to talk about right now…
anyways the point is.. orthodox is not just our religion its our culture too…
Ok so now I am confused…
If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country?
[quote comment="41213"]Ok so now I am confused…
If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country?[/quote]
we have the same culture….at the top level… obviously Ethiopia… as a whole has different cultures…different languages and different religions… etc…
but at the top we have the same culture… the top of the cuture food chain is the moral system for a society… it is what we value…. and that denotes somewhat of the same culture… moral fiber
I know about 30% of you will disagree… but I know the meaning of culture
generally refers to patterns of human activity and the symbolic structures that give such activity significance.
….In general, the term culture denotes the whole product of an individual, group or society of intelligent beings. It includes technology, art, science, as well as moral systems and the characteristic behaviors and habits of the selected intelligent entities. In particular, it has specific more detailed meanings in different domains of human activities. #####
Great job and good creativity, Nolawi; No background music while praying; for some one that has not been to church that often I have a lot of respect for you remembering that. By the way, did you say St. Mary prayer at the reception?
Your voice is sweet. I would say but could have made it more manly man with the jazzy background.
Well i’ll disagree with u. I think weddings these days do’nt showcase true Ethiopian culture. Most are lost in the middle between Ethiopian and Western culture.
The whole prayer thing in the reception , I just don’t get it. Most new customs of the culture are funny. I saw a wedding video where the traditonal way of groom taking away the bride is shown after ketewababech behuala. Well what made it weird was the best men all dressed in suits but they were also carrying the flowers of the bride and mezewochwa. I was shocked they didn’t even sing the song they were supposed to sing instead were busy carrying the flowers just like the women do. I was like why r they holding flowers. Then as they came inside the living room they gave the flowers for the women. That was so weird. The bride was supposed to have all her stuff as she was getting ready inside the parents home. The groom was just supposed to come show up. The men carrying women’s bouquet flowers were so weird.
This is just one weird new culture there are so many.
It is pretty ludicrous to assume that religion isn’t part of our tradition, however, organized religion and the spirituality behind religions shouldn’t be mixed. I also don’t get the praying for the sake of “tradition”, I feel it makes a slight mockery of what people believe so strongly in
Chala I conquer!
Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church. I have been studying the Orthodox Church against the Bible (which should be the bases of the church) and I do see a lot of Unbiblical things that are being practiced in the church. Therefore, I now have to conclude that traditions are taking over the “true Christianity” and instead we’re living a delusional Christian life… So I personally believe that the Church needs to step back and make some corrections.
As for the background music as to when you’re praying…that it the TYPICAL example of confusion. so if music is wrong- and you respect God so much that you wouldn’t play it while you’re “praying to him” then why is it right for you to wait 30 secs and have the full band on stage? Shouldn’t we be respecting God (reverence) every waking moment of our lives? Or do we do it b/c it is okayed by tradition?
[quote comment="41420"]Chala I conquer!
Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church.[/quote]
Regardless of what you beleive, that is not the case in our society(world)… religion plays a role…
As for the background music as to when you’re praying…that it the TYPICAL example of confusion. so if music is wrong- and you respect God so much that you wouldn’t play it while you’re “praying to him” then why is it right for you to wait 30 secs and have the full band on stage? Shouldn’t we be respecting God (reverence) every waking moment of our lives? Or do we do it b/c it is okayed by tradition?
I said traditionally its thought like that.. so i treid not to disrespect blatantly… that is all.. i tried…
i think you are just being critical for the sake of being critical!
I totally and absolutely agree with you, religion has shaped our culture. Like you, I am not religious but I fast. It is an opportunity to make fantastic veggie ethio food at our house, days to be creative, to explore our tsom food.
I love kidasse chanting and when we lived in Ethiopia, I enjoyed listening to kidasse, it put me in a contemplative peaceful mood but I run off before all the preaching began.
My son has a thread around his neck from his baptism. His baptism ceremony was stunningly beautiful. I felt honored to be part of it.
The thing is, you can believe what you believe and if you are strong enough in your beliefs, you can also follow the cultural aspects of the church without feeling like you are part of an institutionalized religion… this is of course if you are not religious or follow a different form of religion.
If you are (orthodox) then you are following it anyway… the issue of following the cultural aspect is not an issue for you.
This is to the person who said , having a prayer in the middle of a reception is weird, and also said most new culture is kind of odd, or something like that. Anyways, Nolawi, i don’t know when the prayer part was done on the wedding you went too. But doing a prayer, right before the dinner part is common. As a matter of fact, i have never been to an Ethiopian wedding, where the food is served without a blessing from a priest. Once the musheroch are in and right before they eat dinner, a priest has to do a prayer for the blessing of the food and the marriage.
[quote comment="45120"]hey nolawi. this is great! but i think you need to learn your prayer. you were missing some lines lol[/quote]
the lines are different in the four different times its mentioned in the bible…
Instead of writing my article, I am podcasting it….
Nolawi Podcast !: 
owwwwwwwwww two things
1. It keeps saying “error opening page”
2. that means i can’t read the articles at work
What I wanna know is do you ever run out of creative ideas?
When I click it’s a dead link. I’m dying to hear what you got to say these days….
ok ladies, it works!
nice voice
cheesy music
your amharic got a slight accent
cute
eweeyyyyyyyy, you sound so miskeen……lol
hehehehe….so cute….
me liked!
Congrats on popping your podcasting cherry.
It’s funny how wedding ceremonies always makes the attendees think past the ceremony and dwell into all things wonderful and sad.
Thanks for Sharing your feelings.
Shib
Nice one so when are we getting the invitation? Nolawi saying “our father” in Amarenga there is truly a God. lol
You do have an accent more when speaking Amarenga then English but very nice to podcast your article.
It’s nice to hear that you said the prayer, along with everyone else, even if you’re not religious…
Very creative.
BeTam ariff! (but for what I REALLY think, check the press…:) )
that was a nice entry! It makes the blog even more appealin’.
it’s funny how i got distracted by ur voice and missed the whole point of the post. lol…well am gon’ give it another listen. :=)
Good job!
Nice, Noles.
I wander if you sound as sweet when you rant and rave as you often do.
wow Noles..
you have great voice..man..!! loved it..and the background music is so perfect..!!
great start, nol! can’t wait for the video podcast.
lol!
great idea! quilbiCH yalech article nat. and bernos keeps stepping forward! this is why i have great respect for bernos inc.! kudos!! mucho respect!
…when’s bernos/apreture hitting the bandwidth?
You sound professional. Very good voice.
If you do this more often, the ladies won’t complain about what you say because they will just enjoy your voice and swallow the truth…
Good job and great idea with the podcast. I wonder why I didn’t think of that before? Unlike Doro, I thought the music was a good choice.
great idea, so will you be the only one using the podcast, and how often do you think you will do it. maybe in the future people with recording software will be able to reply. anyways keep up the good work, and I am patiently awaiting my MILLENIUM SHIRT, is there any way to reserve it, i dont want to miss it again.
Wow…unscripted huh. That was good Nolawi. Funny thing though your voice sounds very different in English and Amharic.
Thanks all, funny thing my voice became the topic of discussion as opposed to the topic…
well ya I said unscripted.. and while i was doing it.. i ended up saying uuuhm a lot.. while i was processing my thought you know…
I think I speak a lot lot slower than I think… well i think the same is the case for many….
and so even though i thought it was going to be unscripted I did have to make a bullet point notes… so that my podcast was somewhat organized…
temari you are so right.. i did the amharic part the first day and then I did the english part the second day… and also I thought it was inappropriate to add.. music background to abatachine hoy…
and thus it sounds different…
this was obviously my first shot.. and i think i got better as i went along…
thanks for the support homies… lets talk about the topic!
LOL okay so why did you think it was inappropriate to add music to abatachen HOY? BTW you have a ferengi accent when you speak Amarigna and to get back to the podcast. I think the Ethiopian Culture and the Church have kind of intermingled. This goes to all the Bernos readers do you think that some one our Traditions have been carried into the church creating some false illusions about Chirstianity and what it means to be a Christian?
Cheers!
Good one Nolawi…love the music as well.
Money Mek – dont worry just make sure you sign up with Bernos email subscription and we will let you know ahead of time so you don’t miss out.
LOL at reciting ‘Abatachen Hoye’. It reminded me of grade school back home.
Wondering very good question
[quote comment="41199"] This goes to all the Bernos readers do you think that some one our Traditions have been carried into the church creating some false illusions about Chirstianity and what it means to be a Christian?
[/quote]
And my answer is YESSSSSS!!!!
you go girl!
You could say its a backward philosophy, to have religion be at the forefront of culture. In our current world religious freedom is more of the norm and religion is not synonymous with culture, but in the past religion was the essential part of the culture.
Wondering,
I don’t know if you are abesha, but there are somethings that Ethiopians do and don’t…. one thing to respect the elders.. old people are so respected… …
most ethiopians as far as I know do not mix… food with music… i am sure this things are forgoten nowadays as we are becoming more western but it was a fact in our household… no music while you eat…
another thing is you don’t play your music in church.. so its a blatant disrespect to god if you do this things.. thus no background music while praying…
i think its just common sense
I think you are mistaken here too… the question is even a mistake…
sorry…
religion played a role in tradition… if we are forced to support a variable in our tradition… then some base it in religion….
the illusion in not on christianity but in the modernization and westernization of Ethiopian culture…
and ofcource its not as simple as that… as there are other variables that affect our culture… like other religions and etc.. which i don’t want to talk about right now…
anyways the point is.. orthodox is not just our religion its our culture too…
i hope someday… people start to understand this!
Ok so now I am confused…
If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country?
[quote comment="41213"]Ok so now I am confused…
If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country?[/quote]
we have the same culture….at the top level… obviously Ethiopia… as a whole has different cultures…different languages and different religions… etc…
but at the top we have the same culture… the top of the cuture food chain is the moral system for a society… it is what we value…. and that denotes somewhat of the same culture… moral fiber
I know about 30% of you will disagree… but I know the meaning of culture
great job on the podcast Nolawi!
although shot lived it was fun hanging wid u and .mike at the wedding. But I am still mad at y’alls for letting my tej go.
is it just me? or do nol’s comments now have a voice?
ohhh…how cute! The Abatachin Hoy sounds more like “yeBole lij” silew:) Nol – ha ha…nice Voice…
Great job and good creativity, Nolawi;
No background music while praying; for some one that has not been to church that often I have a lot of respect for you remembering that. By the way, did you say St. Mary prayer at the reception?
Your voice is sweet. I would say but could have made it more manly man with the jazzy background.
Well i’ll disagree with u. I think weddings these days do’nt showcase true Ethiopian culture. Most are lost in the middle between Ethiopian and Western culture.
The whole prayer thing in the reception , I just don’t get it. Most new customs of the culture are funny. I saw a wedding video where the traditonal way of groom taking away the bride is shown after ketewababech behuala. Well what made it weird was the best men all dressed in suits but they were also carrying the flowers of the bride and mezewochwa. I was shocked they didn’t even sing the song they were supposed to sing instead were busy carrying the flowers just like the women do. I was like why r they holding flowers. Then as they came inside the living room they gave the flowers for the women. That was so weird. The bride was supposed to have all her stuff as she was getting ready inside the parents home. The groom was just supposed to come show up. The men carrying women’s bouquet flowers were so weird.
This is just one weird new culture there are so many.
you really did speak slower on the podcast and did not hyperventilate after every word. lol. yu know its all luv buddy!
heehehehe.. thats funny..nice background.. it one of my favorites. We want yours voice LOUDER or lower your background. other than that arif concept
story good input, i don’t think we necessarily disagree…
thanks besh, and NT and the rest of you all for the supportive comments…
Another great idea by…. who else Nolawi. Great story, i like it.
It is pretty ludicrous to assume that religion isn’t part of our tradition, however, organized religion and the spirituality behind religions shouldn’t be mixed. I also don’t get the praying for the sake of “tradition”, I feel it makes a slight mockery of what people believe so strongly in
Chala I conquer!
Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church. I have been studying the Orthodox Church against the Bible (which should be the bases of the church) and I do see a lot of Unbiblical things that are being practiced in the church. Therefore, I now have to conclude that traditions are taking over the “true Christianity” and instead we’re living a delusional Christian life… So I personally believe that the Church needs to step back and make some corrections.
As for the background music as to when you’re praying…that it the TYPICAL example of confusion. so if music is wrong- and you respect God so much that you wouldn’t play it while you’re “praying to him” then why is it right for you to wait 30 secs and have the full band on stage? Shouldn’t we be respecting God (reverence) every waking moment of our lives? Or do we do it b/c it is okayed by tradition?
Thanks konjit,
keila I agree
[quote comment="41420"]Chala I conquer!
Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church.[/quote]
Regardless of what you beleive, that is not the case in our society(world)… religion plays a role…
I said traditionally its thought like that.. so i treid not to disrespect blatantly… that is all.. i tried…
i think you are just being critical for the sake of being critical!
the “unscripted Nolawi”, it is good. no spell check, no grammer …(except the amharic accent
)
I like it,
Alpha, that was funny I can almost hear you say “eweeyyyyyyy”..
Nolawi,
I totally and absolutely agree with you, religion has shaped our culture. Like you, I am not religious but I fast. It is an opportunity to make fantastic veggie ethio food at our house, days to be creative, to explore our tsom food.
I love kidasse chanting and when we lived in Ethiopia, I enjoyed listening to kidasse, it put me in a contemplative peaceful mood but I run off before all the preaching began.
My son has a thread around his neck from his baptism. His baptism ceremony was stunningly beautiful. I felt honored to be part of it.
The thing is, you can believe what you believe and if you are strong enough in your beliefs, you can also follow the cultural aspects of the church without feeling like you are part of an institutionalized religion… this is of course if you are not religious or follow a different form of religion.
If you are (orthodox) then you are following it anyway… the issue of following the cultural aspect is not an issue for you.
thanks paz, yemi
This is to the person who said , having a prayer in the middle of a reception is weird, and also said most new culture is kind of odd, or something like that. Anyways, Nolawi, i don’t know when the prayer part was done on the wedding you went too. But doing a prayer, right before the dinner part is common. As a matter of fact, i have never been to an Ethiopian wedding, where the food is served without a blessing from a priest. Once the musheroch are in and right before they eat dinner, a priest has to do a prayer for the blessing of the food and the marriage.
hey nolawi. this is great! but i think you need to learn your prayer. you were missing some lines lol
[quote comment="45120"]hey nolawi. this is great! but i think you need to learn your prayer. you were missing some lines lol[/quote]
the lines are different in the four different times its mentioned in the bible…